You go on Sunday and listen to a sermon/lecture. If you’re lucky/unlucky(depending on your point of view) and the speaker is brave enough to deal with it (I’ve daunted many), there will be a Q & A session afterwards. They’ll pass around a collection plate to support the church and various charities. You sing something uplifting and unifying. Meanwhile, the kids have their own program tailored to their development or interest levels. Afterwards, there’s a potluck social. Sometimes there are group outings. There are generally pageants and celebrations for every holiday unless your church is one of the dour sorts that doesn’t celebrate anything.

Some singles go just to meet other singles. Kids either go to play or because the like the stories and singing or because their parents drag them kicking and screaming but dressed up very nicely. Most go to socialize in one way or another or even just feel closer to their Creator as maybe they don’t know how to do it on their own. Most also enjoy an energy enhancement whether they know it or not.

That’s the good stuff about church that some people still miss even after they’ve stopped believing and dropped away. I remember these things I, for one, appreciated about it long after I left the Pentecostal church I used to attend in my late teens.

But I remember bad stuff too: the youth pastor who took advantage of his position of trust to take indecent liberties with young girls, myself among them. The Sunday school teacher who thought all witches were perversions of nature not intended by god to exist. His definition of witch meaning anyone with PSI abilities – people like me and some of my friends were then. He thought all should be burned at the stake. I kid you not. There was a lot of animosity preached against people of other sects and religions and non-religions as well. They really had a thing against Catholics and atheists in particular for some reason, which I really resented because some of my best friends were those. There was an uncomfortably cloying feeling in the atmosphere of the main hall where the preaching is that I’ve noticed in other churches as well. I don’t like whatever it is. I think it might be due to one of two things: the residue of preaching where emotional strings are being pulled in a manipulative manner excessively evoking guilt, fear, hysteria, and divisive feelings towards others or the irresponsible use of magic there.

They didn’t call it magic. They called magic evil unless it was done by Jesus himself. Ordinary people didn’t do magic, according to them, unless they were evil, even if it wasn’t on purpose. But they did it and called it by other names. “Speaking in tongues,” for instance, where they’d use chanting and swaying to put themselves in a trance and invite “the Holy Spirit” to speak through them. One would speak in some unrecognizable tongue and another across the room would translate. I didn’t take part because I recognized what they were doing as channelling and was wary about letting some random spirit or other come into me like they were doing because, no, it wasn’t only the Holy Spirit that spoke through them and sometimes used their bodies for grotesque antics, it was too often just mischievous spirits in general.

I’m not against channelling. I just think protections should be better set up against spirit invaders you don’t want. You know? So I faced a lot of criticism for refusing to participate.

One other thing that bugged me about church that applies equally to religion in general: you get told what you should think and do and what you shouldn’t. There’s a kind of group think that goes on and if you buck it, you will be harshly criticized and threatened with Hell fire for it. You’re not encouraged to use your own intellect or common sense in this department. My church, for instance, aside from being dead-set against other religions and the openly acknowledged practice of magic, also had a big problem with the idea of reincarnation and the theory of evolution.

So yeah, overall, I personally don’t miss church and don’t find any really comfortable to be in, though Catholic churches tend to be more tolerable than most to me but that could have more to do with the architecture than anything. Certain types of architecture attract or comfort me more than others. That, and perhaps the fact that Catholics don’t act as judgemental towards outsiders as most Protestants seem to be.

Anyway, all that considered, I was really amused this morning to hear again about the growing local trend of atheist churches. Sounds to me like they have all the good and bad about them that regular churches have about them. But why are they calling them “churches” when they’re not really places of worship so much as…. Hmm. Maybe they are about the same thing.

I wonder if members mind each other’s business and that of outsiders as happens so often in churches?

I know they place certain limits on thinking just like churches do. Whereas most of what churches teaches have to do with superstition and supernatural (carefully not called that) while science is kind of skirted as though it smells bad, the atheist churches have speakers come to speak on the various sciences and social issues but forbid discussion of anything to do with the supernatural in any manner, shape, or form. Yet they claim they don’t mind religious visitors. So I guess religious visitors are just careful not to talk about their religion in anything but the most pragmatic terms?

Yeah. Anyway, I wouldn’t fit in an atheist church either. I’m more of an agnostic with my own mind about how things are. To me, for example, supernatural just means Super Natural and there’s nothing unnatural about it. Now plastic, that’s unnatural. A full and very lively spirit world and life, that’s natural. It’s the greater part of what we are.

Ha. I probably wouldn’t fit in anywhere. I have a lot of feelings and ideas about how things are that don’t entirely conform to any one group’s.

I see church replacement movements all around me though.

One of them is Darwinianism, ironically enough. I saw a program recently that discussed archeological and paleontological evidence all over the place for the human race being millions of years older than the scientific establishment allows for. Among this evidence and in other species as well, is plenty to suggest that it’s not always survival of the fittest that fuels evolution. More often its cooperation between and within species that causes improvements to happen. Competition, which is often a failure to cooperate, on the other hand, results in devolution (as in Islam) or extinction altogether. Yet wherever this evidence is found, it has often been hidden from the general public so as not to upset the status quo.

Another is the “Alien Astronaut Theorists.”

I watch Alien Astronaut all the time while I’m playing on the computer or cooking at home. Jeb puts it on for me because he knows I’m interested in that stuff AND the not inconsiderable fact that I haven’t gotten comfortable with the newfangled television arrangement yet, a nightmare of cables and controls through various incomprehensible (to me) systems. So it’s my very entertaining background noise.

One phrase I hear a LOT in there is “According to Alien Astronaut Theorists…,” which makes it sound like a religion to me. They’re not stating they KNOW these things. No. They’re staying humble but VERY enthusiastic. They’re stating they BELIEVE these things and the distinction is not as small as it might seem at first glance. By the second or third glance, you can see its religious aspects for sure. There are a lot of possible explanations for the things they’re reporting on, but the only explanation they even consider is Ancient Astronauts.

I think it’s great that some people have and enjoy their churches, temples, religions, whatever. But wouldn’t it be cool if everyone just kept their minds open to every possible idea, weighing each one honestly and fairly, instead of filtering the crap out of every single one and missing the greater vistas beyond?


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Random Morning Thoughts….

1. Between Nostrodamus and Al Buliek: El Ninjo is a Russion construct meant to destabilize our agrarian systems, but failing to do that; affecting others instead. Weather games back and forth sure as Tennis, but the wind takes the ball and you never know where. Florida is under water up to the panhandle. There are cities in the sky.

I like that.

Technology by the mid 21st century is based on sound and vibration.

The fairer sex will turn mysogynist religion on its ear and it won’t be a bad thing. *Curtsies*

California is broken into islands which are left as wilderness refuges. New York city is underwater but upstate is doing fine… as is my state.

There is no stall in our technology as I half expected as some lengths have been gone to in order to protect it during the tilt. The space program marches on with assistance not entirely anticipated by the masses. There are off world colonies now.

2. I am not religious. The non-religious have always been persecuted wherever a religion is in political power… but then so have other religions. This become hard even for the memebers of the religion in power. No one can live up to ridiculous unnatural standards for very long if at all. It’s in all our interests to dissallow religion in politics. The Middle East has been phenomenally slow in getting that but there are signs of progress here and there.

3. Government and religion have had too much power blindly allotted to them but dependent thinkers require this. Government and religion have created the dependenacies on them. Human minds need to evolve past that. Some will make it. There will soon be a break-off point if I’m reading the signs correctly. The masks will fall off.  The old masters will lose control and be thrown out with the garbage.

4. LOL. I’m suddenly remembering of the crazy old man in the ruins of an aircraft hangar in the movie, ALWAYS, saying, “I see the signs!  Stop!  Don’t walk on the grass! No shirt, no shoes, no service….!”

5. Some people seem to think I’m protective of religion just because I’m so upset about all the people ISIS has murdered. I’m not. I consider beliefs to be a personal thing. You can lie and say you believe something you don’t if someone is threatening you into agreement with what they say. That doesn’t make it real. That just makes it a survival tactic. I don’t think anyone’s beliefs can or should be coerced. I’m not interested in protecting religion; only people and their free will.

6. ISIS/DAESH sucks shiza through a straw. They are the worst beings on earth; pure evil; well beneath the dignity of being called human.  The only people this isn’t obvious to are those who support them and the jihadis streaming to join them.  I wish them luck in winning the Darwin Award.  Things are looking good for that possibility.

7. My interest in overturning political Islam is based on the above and I consider it an abosolute MUST. So please understand if I don’t care to debate your non-Muslim religion with you. You’ll just call me an aetheist, agnostic, infidel, or witch like it’s a bad thing when I fail to agree with your religious ideals and I don’t want to fight with you. You I’d prefer to protect. If you’re not playing religious politics on me, then you are not the enemy. Political Islam is.

We need to be on the same team when it comes to fighting it even if it’s just verbally or via exposition.  Just don’t expect me to believe the same things you do.  We’re different.  Can’t we just agree to disagree and leave it at that?  Variety is the spice of life.

8. Looking through some videos about the Serapeum in Egypt, Mohenjo Daro, Nazca, Machupichu, and Tiahuanaco, AGAIN, I realize what great technologies have come and gone here and will come again.

There is Time and there is ALL TIME. There is nothing new under the sun. It just seems new to our incarnate eyes.

I’m sure we will gather in the Tapestry at some point in ALL TIME and half a laugh over this, watching all the glistening threads interweaving in the Whole.

9. A bit of vision that has stuck with me for years: watching a bay empty of water while sitting at a loom of some sort on a flat gardened rooftop.

I’m surpised to see it go and watch in amzement as far off at the horrizon a gleaming forms at the horrizon, a ribbon of water and light. There is a hum in the air; a vibration in the pavement beneath my feet.

My hairs all lift as if in an electric current, and sea comes thundering back in a towering wall, green glass, sun-lit, full of sea-life hung in suspension.

Then it hits me hard and I’m floating asunder in the current, unable to breathe, panicking.

And then I’m suddenly flying, totally free and at ease, watching bemused and the blocky buildings and gardens crumble amid the foam currents washing through them.

The last thing I see is the sun setting golden upon the sea, melting like butter over it where there was supposed to be land and now isn’t. It’s a really splendid sunset though.

10. Life here is tenuous. Every material thing we own, even our bodies and the homes that we own if we are so lucky to own one, is only borrowed from our mother, Earth. It will go back again.

Even should we keep our bodies longer than our homes, we may still find ourselves will little else. Any one of us can end up homeless on the street with just a sudden turn of fate.

Life can change between one heartbeat and the next.

What’s forever is what we are at heart and even that is subject to refining.

I find a great deal of contentment and freedom in this thought. Is that weird?

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Ridiculous Infideliphobia much?

Infideliphobia.  Yeah.  That’s what it is.  That’s why wild Muslims run around murdering, enslaving, harrassing, and torturing non-Muslims so much these days.  And they call US Islamophobic for finding that fact concerning?????

Listen, a phobia is an irrational fear of something.  Our leeriness of Islam is NOT irrational… but I do think there’s of us rather irrational, or WAS, that is, until they proved beyond all doubt that they were our enemy avowed, the soldiers of a Satanic entity they call Allah.

I don’t think all Muslims are.  Just the ones that follow Islam/Mohammad to the letter and use it as their excuse to torture, rape, murder, enslave, terrorize, harrass, or oppress others.  Not all Muslims do that; only the really serious ones. 

May they come to a horrific end.

Of course, there are also some that lay between: they don’t do those things themselves, but actively support or fail to oppose those among them who DO.  They’re guilty too. 

May they be buried in pig poop.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.  I know Allah just means “The God” but bear in mind that even followers of the same religion don’t necessarily worship the same god.  They just worship what they perceive as God.  Individual perceptions can be VERY different from one another.  They may agree on some things, even the general format, while being miles apart on the most intimately and socially important issues related thereto.

But I digress.

Pure by-the-book Muslims are so anti-Jew (among other types of non-Muslim) that it’s ridiculous. Just because their prophet was hysterically afraid of or offended by them, they figure they have to be… and their stupid religious teachers just keep perpetuating this idiocy.

I get tired of the “zionist consipiracy crap they are constantly spouting and am ceaselessly amazed at how otherwise intelligent Muslims just eat it out of their hands.

Why? Israel is a small country. Why do its larger, more belligerant, neighbors find it so threatening? It makes no sense.

I saw another idiot imam on an Egyptian television show the other day whose more secular host asked him about the Islamic persecution of Christians and Jews. She pointed out to him that the Koran said Christians and Jews were people of the book so why should Muslims persecute them?

His answer was that they were kafir/hypocrits because they did not accept the prophet of Islam or his ways, therefore they should not be considered people of the book and were fair game for persecuting and killing.

Seriously? Does he realize how moranic it is for him (or anyone) to expect pre-existing, well established religions to just blithely adopt an upstart new religion and its raving prophet that has shown no improvement over the old, goes against it entirely, and is extremely cruel, oppressive, and downright barbaric besides? Who would want to convert to that? Only bad or stupid people or teenage rebels might. Normal people, content in their existing faith certainly wouldn’t… and Islam wants to punish them for that.

Ridiculous. Obscenely so!

Ha.  And this morning, a Muslim went to a synagog shouting “Allahu Akbar!” (God is Greats) “I’m gonna cut your heads off!”

Later, after the police arrived, he denied saying this, saying instead that he’d come there merely to convert these Jews to Islam: “I don’t got to force it upon them, but I could offer them my insight, I could offer them what I think is the truth, is the right path to Heaven.” 

I really don’t think the truly religious know the difference between right and wrong because when you submit wholly to whatever religion you are, you give over your discernment to it. 

You define right and wrong not simply on what is positive/negative, creative/destructive, harmonious/disharmonious, selfless/selfish, etc. but only on what the religion says right and wrong are.  In many religions, this may result in an  intellectual stupor hard to think past, but may work out okay anyway if the core teachings of that religion happen to be bennificent in nature.  If they are not beneficent, however, things can go VERY wrong for all concerned and the tards that fall for it will not be able to think their way out of a wet paper bag when finally it dawns on them (if it ever does) that they may have been deceived in their beliefs.

I mean, after the nightmare of the Burning Times and a few scattered historical episodes otherwise (okay, a LOT of them) most religions don’t behave horribly as consistently as Islam does.  But, as an example, Christianity’s core teaching is “Treat others the way you want to be treated.”  The Old Testement core teaching is eye-for-eye and fear god.  Budism is all about peace and harmony.  Islam’s core teaching is more along the lines of “Slay and terrorize the infidels until worship is only to Allah.” 

This does NOT endear purist Islam to anyone but power mongers and fools.

Islamophobia should really be called Islamo-realism.  It’s not a phobia when they really do want to kill us.

The term Infideliphobia applies to a lot of Muslims who shouldn’t fear us if they haven’t wronged us.  But those who have wronged us are very much in danger of getting back what they dished out.  Well, sort of.

I can’t imagine an non-Muslims save for the likes of a very fringe serial killer few who would ever want to behave as horribly to Muslims as ISIS, Hamas, Hizbollah, Talebane, etc. have behaved to non-Muslims, but we have reached the saturation point of our tolerance.  We may not be as brutal, but these terrorist types have made their absolute extremination as necessary to us as the air we breathe.

Karma’s gonna get you barbarians. 

Or us. 

Either way….

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Oh for the Painted Ladies

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There’s something special about San Francisco row houses, also known as “Painted Ladies.”  They’re colorful, artsy, full of intricate architectural frills, graceful, stately, cozy, elegant…. They’re vestiges of another time keeping up with the present just fine, thank you very much.  They’re part of pattern, superficially all alike, yet each one is different, very much its own individual.

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Inside, they’re a curious eclectic blend of old and new, haute style and quaintness.  They have a very new age feel to them despite being built in Victorian and Edwardian fashion.

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I guess I’d kind of love living in one, if not for all those stairs.  Stairs hurt me. 

I can’t help but find stairs fascinating, though, similarly to the way I find doors fascinating.  metaphorically, they’re both transition points.  But doors are portal to parallel spaces whereas stairs ascend or descend between places, progressing or digressing.

But with these houses, I always see the stairs going up into a kind of heaven.  I may be out of breath by the time I make it to the top, but I’m going to be high above the mundane when I get there, in a higher place in every sense of meaning, and the views of the city, the Palace of Fine Arts, and the San Francisco Bay is going to be breathtaking!

I may never come down again.  I may just nest there like a happy little bird.

Yeah, I’m busy designing a bunch of them in Sims 3.  They’re beautiful, what can I say?  And the Sims can climb all those stairs for me so I don’t have to.  What a deal, eh?

Okay, enough from the peanut gallery.  Back to work with my daydreaming self.  You too slacker!

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Holidays, flash mobs, and belief

1. I love Flash Mobs. Such sweet, joyful, surprises they bring unsuspecting passerby all over the place. Well, in the west at least. I wonder if they ever perform in the near east?

2. Sharia has so many laws against basic humanness like music, compassion, free speech and thought, female sexuality or expression, many forms of art, of dress, of merriment. Flash Mob performs in Dar Islam and Flash Mob would get whipped, arrested, or worse. It’s very sad what that cursed part of the world misses out on.

3. I thought the same thing while watching the splendor of the Nutcracker ballet with my husband and daughter this weekend past. Hijab and gender apartheid laws would have made it impossible. As it is here, though, we got to thoroughly enjoy its sheer jubilant beauty.

4. A Christian posted a video of a Flash Mob carolling in a mall, a very sweet thing, and then soured it a bit with the snide comment of “That should shut the atheists up.” How rude. Just because a person doesn’t belong to your religion doesn’t mean that can’t appreciate, even enjoy certain aspects of it.

5. Heck, I love nearly everyone’s holidays… the positive ones, that is, that celebrated good things: Birth, Life, Dancing, Hope, Harvest, Weddings, Treaties, Family, Peace on Earth and Good Will to Men (and Women too), Spring, Rebirth, Mystery, Beauty, Freedom….

6. The only holidays I don’t like are the mournful, harmful, negative ones: Ashura comes immediately to mind. That one absolutely horrifies me.

7. Musterion NinetyNine posted a fun music video of the Star Trek Next Generation cast singing “Make it So” to the tune of “Let it Snow” in cleverly meshed sound bites and I stopped to realize that I never saw a holiday celebrated in that show. Maybe they did it and I just don’t remember but considering the subspace source of Star Trek to begin with, I wondered a little at the meaning of that curiously vacant spot where there ought to be holidays. And yet they seemed very happy, self-reliant people. Maybe that’s just the thing: don’t celebrate just once in a while. Make every moment and everything you appreciate special every day. Maybe we evolve to the point where we don’t need to work so hard at being happy. We don’t have to put it on. We can just BE.

8. There was a survey posted here that was alleged to ask people all over the world what they believe in. Iceland’s majority answer was the most unique: “We believe in ourselves.”

9. I’ve heard the argument where religious people consider themselves denigrated by the theory of evolution, claiming that it makes out their ancestors to be monkeys. Monkeys are cute. But whatever. They also get leery sometimes over the unorthodox concept of God in ourselves. Used to anyway, like up until about 20 years ago or so. They seemed to think it meant people were worshipping themselves like they worshipped God. But I think that woeful misunderstanding has since wore off.

10. We are in the mind of our creator before our existence and very much an extension of our creator in our existence. We are expressions of the Artist; extension that reach out and explore it’s own essence before going back, experience rich.

11. Just my opinion. It in no way invalidates yours. You are perfectly free to have your own opinions. We do have free will after all.

12. ISIS murdered all those Christians and Yazidis for refusing to convert to Islam, even the little children. They might have saved themselves by lying and saying the Shahada, but their mouths would have been forever fouled by uttering so grievous an evil lie. How stupid must these Jihadis be to believe that words alone cement a belief in something? May they be haunted by the lives they have taken and killed by their slave girls in their sleep.

13. No matter what, you should stay true to yourself. Don’t let anyone force you to say you believe what you don’t. Lies are heavy, shameful, things. Honesty is freeing.

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Cherry Chicken and Rice

This dish was inspired by a favorite Persian food back in my Iranian days.  I never learned how to make it the way they did, but over the years I have refined it into something just as good… maybe even better.

You will need:

8 boneless, skinless, chicken thighs

A 32 oz can of black cherries (preferably pitted)

A little flour

Spices:  Allspice, Cinnamon, Johnny Seasoning, Saffron

Red Wine (I use Barefoot Refresh, Summer Red – but it doesn’t taste like feet)

Jan’s Sweet Soy Sauce

Olive Oil

Butter or Margarine

White Rice



First heat a thin layer of olive oil with 2 TBS butter or margarine in your electric skillet to 350 degrees Fahrenheit.

Wash the chicken pieces in cold water and dredge them in the flour laced with Johnny Seasoning.  Brown them in the skillet.

Meanwhile, start your rice.  Bring 3 cups water and a little dab of butter to a boil on the stove with allspice & cinnamon to taste and just a pinch of saffron.  Add 1-1/2 cups uncooked white rice, cover, reduce heat to low, and leave that way for the next 15 minutes.

Drain the juice from the cherries into a measuring cup.  Put the cherries aside.  Add enough wine to the juice to make a total of 3 cups.  Add to this 1/4 cup Jan’s Sweet Soy Sauce.

Once the chicken has been browned on both sides, pour this liquid over it, stirring and flipping it around a bit to be completely coat it.  Cover, reduce heat to 275.

Grind 1/2 cup cocoanut with 1/4 cup almonds in a food processor (you don’t have to grind it. I do just because my guys have something against nuts), stir into the rice at 15 minutes along with the reserved cherries and a TBS of butter. Cover and keep on low for about 5 minutes more.

The sauce you poured over the chicken will cling to it in a glossy purple coat.

If the rest isn’t thick enough for your liking, you can add a cup of wine mixed with cornstarch and that will thicken it up very much, very quick, so use restraint.  You don’t need to do that.

Just serve the chicken and rice already.  Your family will make happy “Nom Nom” sounds for you.  I love it when they make that sound.

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Lalalalallalalala! Ileh la!

The other day, someone on Facebook posted a list of things Christians say to atheists that annoys them. It was something like this one I found at I added my own agnostic comments beside each because I sometimes get these comments directed at me too:

  1.  “You’re going to hell.”  I don’t believe in hell, so this isn’t much of a threat to me but I think it’s hateful of you to apparently be wishing it on me. I also worry for you that you believe in a god who could be so cruel. If you can believe that punishing infinitely for a finite bit misbehavior or disbelief is good, I have to wonder if you really know right from wrong.
  2. “I’ll pray for you.” Okay. That’s nice…or would be if I were sick or something. I’ve seen studies. I know that prayer can work in the right circumstances. The religions or lack thereof of the individuals involved doesn’t even matter. I’m just a little insulted that you feel you need to do me this courtesy as though my disagreement with you were some sort of fatal disease. But whatever. Same to you.
  3. “I don’t have enough faith to be an atheist.” Faith not required. Just be honest with yourself. You believe or you don’t believe. That’s up to you.
  4. “You did not have a genuine experience of salvation, or you were never a true Christian because if that were true you would have never left the Lord.” I get this same sort of comment from Muslims when I tell them I left Islam after I got to know it too well. This is something I usually only tell them when they insist I watch whatever video or read whatever book to learn “real Islam” and then I’ll convert to it. When I say I left Islam, after a few minutes shock, they’ll say to me, “Then you can’t really have ever been Muslim!” Meh. I was. I got over it.
  5. “You can’t prove God, you just have to believe!” But why do I have to believe your version of god? There’s room in the cosmos for trillions of realities both physical and spiritual. How do you know yours is the only right one? If you were honest with yourself, you might admit that you don’t. Like me, you’ve formed an opinion of what god is. Just because our opinions don’t agree doesn’t mean one of us has to be wrong. So relax. My lack of belief in what you believe does NOT invalidate your belief.
  6. “I have proof of God!” Arrogant liar. No one had solid proof. We have ideas; assumptions; opinions, religions; non-religions; inclinations; maybe even evidence…..
  7. “When we meet in the afterlife, you will look stupid.” I doubt that. But I’m sure there are things we’ll both be surprised about, things we’ve hidden from ourselves up until then.
  8. “Why are you mad at God?”  Is that a requirement for not believing in your version of god? Seriously? Okay, I know some people who have left their religions because they felt their version of god allowed bad things to happen in their lives. So, yeah, they’re angry at god. As a matter of fact, this is an excuse a lot of apostates from any religion will give for a while after they’ve left though they may eventually realize there are more pertinent reasons and that maybe they really don’t believe in that god anyway, so how can they be mad at them? It’s not a one size fits all though.  I’m not mad at god. I’m not too fond of the Yahweh and Allah characters, but then I don’t believe they’re god. I think that everything in creation is part of our Creator. We are our Creator’s expressions as It experiences and explores every aspect of Itself. In the physical, some of those aspects are good and some bad and some in between. In the non-physical, they are all just experiences. I get mad at the bad aspects incarnate – like you would be mad at the cancer in you if you had cancer – but I cannot be mad at the Whole. That would be kind of ridiculous in my opinion.
  9. “So you don’t believe in anything?”  Don’t be silly. I don’t believe what you believe. That doesn’t mean I don’t believe in anything.
  10. “It [evolution] took 20 million years? Monkeys don’t live that long!” I actually haven’t heard this one before. If had, I’d have to assume the person were either joking or had no idea what evolution really was. Might be a conversation ender for me though, not because the concept of evolution is important to me one way or the other, but just because it would convince me the person was a little too slow to carry on a serious intellectual conversation with. Not like they were retarded or anything. Retardation doesn’t necessarily negate wisdom or understanding.  That I wouldn’t mind. Just that they were willfully ignorant. That sort tax my tolerance.

Yada, yada, yada. What really struck me about the posting, the version of it in Facebook, is how the poor atheist that posted it got hammered by Christians and basically told to shut up, that he was being insulting.

Told to shut up just for honestly stating the things that were being said to him that he found annoying, silly, or insulting? Its way too reminiscent of Blasphemy Laws in Islam where you aren’t allowed to tell Muslims anything they don’t want to hear or that would cause them fitna (disbelieve/self-questioning) or they will throw you in prison and might even execute you. Not kidding. Insane but true.

That was a conversation I decided not to take part in. It would have been too much like trying to talk to people who have their fingers stuck in their ears, eyes squeezed shut, saying “Lalalalalalalalala….” as loudly as possible and I’d get hundreds of notifications of such from the forum in question.  Irritating even to contemplate.

This is interestingly enough the reaction I got from a Pakistani Muslim the other day when I mentioned being very upset over the things ISIS has been doing. First he says ISIS isn’t really Islamic. Then he starts saying how Islam doesn’t teach what ISIS does (it DOES teach that, but whatever) and starts suggesting videos I should watch about the “beauty” of Islam.

At one point, he told me to show him any mistakes in the Koran and he’d leave Islam immediately.

Oy Vey. Trick offer. Religious faith does not require facts so what would be the point? And what exactly constitutes a mistake in that context? I hadn’t even asked him to leave Islam. I’d just said I didn’t like Islam after he started pushing it at me, but that if he believed it, I was sure he had his personal reasons for it and that was his business.

I told him I wasn’t religious and didn’t really care what Islam taught so much as what it did and there are some pretty bad things being done in the name of Islam and have been throughout its history.

Guess I was causing him fitna with my reaction to his dawah (the Islamic version of evangelism).

I tried to change the subject but it was too late. He’d gone into full defensive mode, blaming Jews, blaming Americans, saying how bad it was that we’re bombing Muslims in Iraq and Syria (read “ISIL/ISIS), how evil that was of us, all those jihadi kids (the ones being taught to behead people) made fatherless, and I soon realized… he wasn’t eschewing ISIS. He was defending it. He didn’t really think there was anything wrong with what ISIS was doing… just that the world was wrong to criticize its barbaric actions.

I stopped talking to him of course. I may not shut up about something I disagree with, but I’m sure not going to waste my words on the willfully ignorant. Pearls before swine anyone?

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